Hey everybody. How are you guys doing? >> I love it. Um, it’s very hot for this New Yorker. Um, but I am so thrilled to be here.
I have been to Texas twice in the last few months, both times for James Talerico. We talked in Austin and now here with you guys in Fort Worth for this very important conversation um with an iconic Texan himself, Mark Cuban. Uh you guys are good on the applause. So let’s get a big round of applause for James Terico and Mark Cuban. Okay, >> I’m still on.
All right, you guys good? >> Ready? >> Let’s play healthc care ball. Um, so you just rolled out your plan. Um, it was very exciting to see it.
Um, can you tell us more about it? I love this. You know, going after big medicine. I hadn’t heard that before. Um, >> people like it.
Yeah. >> So, how are we going to break up those healthcare monopolies? >> Well, first, thank you for being here, Jessica. I’m such a fan of what you do on Fox News every day, reaching reaching people across the political spectrum and cable news is not always the best example of good civic discourse, but you really are showing us how you find that common ground with folks who may not see eye to eye with you politically. So, really so thankful that you’re here back in Texas helping us with this.
>> And and of course, want to thank the one and only Mark Cuban for being here. I um when it comes to basketball, I may be a Spurs fan, but when it comes to but when it when it comes to healthcare, I am such a huge fan of cost plus drugs and the work that you’re doing to lower health care costs >> for working people >> and just like Jessica, just such a fan of how you practice politics. um always willing to enter into a debate, always willing to find common ground with people who you may not see eye to eye with on everything. I feel like we need a lot more of that in uh in our politics. So, it’s an honor to be with you.
>> And then and then lastly, just thank you to everyone who showed up here. All of you who care about healthcare as an issue, all of you who know we deserve better from our broken health care system in this country. I’m just so thankful that you’re here with us. So, you know, this this issue of healthc care is so personal to me like it is for many of us. Uh some of you know that when I was a perfectly healthy 28-year-old running for the Texas House, uh I got diagnosed with a shocking illness.
Uh I was a Democrat running in a Trump district. And so I had to do things a little differently. And at at one point I decided to walk the entire length of my district, 25 miles from Round Rock, Texas to Taylor, Texas. I walked the whole thing on foot in the Texas heat. I held three town halls along the walk and about halfway through, I started to feel fatigued and nauseous.
I ended up throwing up a few times along the walk. Somehow I finished it. When I went home, you know, I figured I was just dehydrated and I just needed a good night’s sleep. I went home. I went to bed and I slept for 36 hours straight.
And so my family got concerned. They took me to the ER where nurses checked my blood sugar. I don’t think I’d ever had my blood sugar tested before. The nurses told me that a normal blood sugar is 100 or lower. Mine was 900.
I was in a state of diabetic ketoacidosis which leads to coma and death without insulin. I was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes on the spot. I was in the ICU for three days. When I got out, I went to Walgreens to pick up my first 30-day supply of insulin. This new medicine that I now needed to live.
And that 30-day supply of insulin cost me $684. and I didn’t have that kind of money, so I put it on a credit card. And I soon learned that Texans with diabetes across the state were rationing or skipping their doses. Some of them were dying because of it. And so when I won that seat, I brought Democrats and Republicans together to take on big pharma.
And we capped insulin co-pays in Texas at $25 per prescription. We um we came together in the state house to crack down on surprise medical billing. I passed a major piece of legislation to import cheaper prescription drugs from Canada. And I’ve gone after the same anti-competitive consolidation that we’re talking about today. So, our plan does a few things.
One, it breaks up these big health care monopolies that are driving up health care prices for working people all over the state. and all over this country. It allows people to shop around for the cheapest medications and then allows them to count that expense against their deductions. And then lastly, yeah, you can you can apply for that. And then lastly, it ensures that doctors, not insurance companies, are deciding what medications we need.
And and the idea the idea is that more competition means more options, which means lower prices for working people. And and I’ll just before I turn this over to Mark, I I’ll just give one example of the kind of monopoly I’m talking about. CVS is a monopoly. They own one of the largest health insurance companies. They own one of the big three PBMs.
and they own the largest network of drugstores in the country. So that’s a healthc care monopoly. It it is insane that one company can literally control the hospital where you pay to get care, the pharmacy where you pay for your medications, and the insurance company that decides how much you pay. It’s a racket. And these monopolies are they are profiting off our pain.
A devastating diagnosis shouldn’t mean a devastating invoice. And the reason our health care system is so broken is because too many politicians in both parties, if we’re being honest, are either bought by or afraid of big medicine. And and Mark Mark and I believe in the free market, but this is not a free market. Thi this is coverage by cartel. And the only way that we’re going to drive down these prices, the only way we’re going to put our lives ahead of their bottom line is to break up these big healthcare monopolies.
And that’s exactly what our plan does. >> Yep. You know, it’s funny when um James and I started talking about health care and we’ve had multiple conversations and exchanges and he we talked about my coming out here and putting together this plan and I’m like, “Okay, well, I just have to ask you a question.” There was a bill, a bipartisan bill that was proposed by Josh Holly and Elizabeth Warren called the Break Up Big Medicine Bill. And I have literally talked to senator after senator after senator asking them why they haven’t co-sponsored it or supported it or come out publicly and said anything.
And I won’t get into names but James nailed it on the reasons why. And so prior to our doing this I asked one question. I said this is key. Will you when you are elected? I didn’t say if I said when you are elected, will you co-sponsor the break up big medicine bill?
Because that is key. If we can break up those big companies, the CVS’s, the United etc., we literally could see the cost of pharmaceuticals and health care literally drop overnight 20, 30, 40% depending on where you live. So James said yes. So here I am and we are going to break up big medicine.
>> I know what a big deal it is for you to do this Mark and how much you need to believe in something for you to want to come out and talk about it in this way. And I know James is appreciative of it and I think all of us are. You know I was doing research for the five yesterday and I was looking at some Texas stats. You have double the uninsured rate in this state. You have hundreds of thousands of people who have been kicked off their Medicaid just in since the beginning of uh Trump’s second term.
Cost of living too high, wages not growing fast enough, farm bankruptcies, a smorgesborg of problems here that are all tied directly to health care costs in a lot of ways because that’s what people what’s top of mind for them. And I, you know, those horrifying stats around how many people are skipping a doctor’s visit, how many people are not going to the hospital, how many people are not taking their kids to see a doctor because they can’t afford it. And so, can you contextualize your plan a little bit more directly in terms of how it’s going to affect working people? >> Yeah. So, obviously, I’m going all across the state of Texas.
I’m going to big cities and small towns. I’m going to red areas and blue areas alike. And everywhere I go, I hear from Texans who are drowning. Drowning in this economy that doesn’t reward hard work. This economy that that forces working people to dig deep for basics, for groceries, for gas, for utilities, and for healthcare.
And as you mentioned, Jessica, we have the highest number of uninsured people in the entire country. and our state leaders refusal to expand Medicaid to bring our federal tax dollars back into our state to provide more care, more coverage is unconscionable. And it means that a lot of our our fellow Texans rely on the ACA on on these exchanges, on these subsidies. And so all the cuts that were made to the Affordable Care Act uh over the last 12 months, it’s really hurt Texans in particular. And I’ve talked to Texans who have seen their premiums go up a thousand dollars a month.
And a lot of them are dropping off of it because of that skyrocketing price. And and sometimes these policy conversations about healthcare get wonky. We talk about premiums and deductibles and insurance companies and PBMs, but I think it’s really important to remember what the end result is, and that is our neighbors dying unnecessarily. the the estimates for the big ugly bill was that it was going to lead to 51,000 Americans dying needlessly every year because of a lack of care and a lack of coverage. And so I just want to ground us in the in the humanity of this conversation because we are talking about saving people’s lives.
You you know that my faith is central in my public service and if you go back and read the New Testament, even if you’re not a Christian, even if you’re not religious, go back and see what Jesus spends most of his time doing. It’s not preaching. It’s not teaching. It’s healing. It’s healing people.
And that is what we are called to do, whether you’re religious or not, is ensure ensure that our neighbors have the care that they need. And that is that is going to be the end result of this plan and the other healthcare policies that we’re going to fight for in Washington is saving the lives of our neighbors, bringing down these costs for all of us so that we can afford to get by in this economy so we can afford to fulfill our God-given potential. That is the end goal. That is our northstar. >> Mark, do you have anything you want to add before I shift gears?
You know, one thing I will add, one of the reasons I’m here is not just to talk about healthcare, but because of James and the fact that I believe in him. Um, I believe very strongly that character is destiny and that when people are tested, when it hits the fan, that’s when real character emerges. And when you see somebody like James who truly is ethical, you can believe in him, you can trust him, you know that as this world changes and we move forward, James is going to be somebody that truly is character is really character is destiny. He is the man who really puts it together and you can trust him for anything. So that’s why I’m here.
character is destiny and that goes both ways. So, it’s it’s good to be here uh with someone of your caliber. Um I want to make sure that we take this frankly very cool opportunity to be in conversation with Mark um to talk about issues that are impacting young people in particular. Um I want to kick off with social media. So, we saw the Meta settlement this week.
Uh, $17 billion. It sounds like a lot. It was less than their Q2 earnings, just to put it in perspective. I did like the usage restrictions idea for young people. I think it should be applied to older people, too.
I could use some of that on my own phone. Um, but these divisive algorithms are the stuff that is haunting people and especially parents. My girls are a little too young to be on their phones all the time, but I already have churn about it inside. What do you think we can do about these algorithms? Is there is there some way to fix this system?
>> Absolutely. I I mean, as a former educator, I’m deeply concerned that these algorithms are destroying an entire generation of Americans uh from the inside out. Um, particularly when I think about young men, the young men that I used to teach, the young men in my family, we’re seeing these algorithms take advantage of of of young people across this country, including young men. And these algorithms make them feel insecure and lonely. And then the algorithms teach them that the solution is dominating other people.
It’s trolling. It’s owning. It’s name calling. It’s tearing other people down. And that’s just the exact opposite of what I was taught when I was growing up.
You know, I think about my adoptive dad, Mark Telerico. Shout out to Mark Telerico. Uh he’s the man the man who gave me his last name, the man who raised me as his own. Every Saturday morning, my dad would mow our lawn. Rain or shine, he insisted on doing it himself.
He still does to this day. And I I remember after he would mow our lawn without telling anybody, he would go next door and mow our neighbor’s lawn because she was elderly. She was a widow. And he never talked about it. He just did it because that’s what a man does.
He stands up for his family and for his neighbors. He does what’s right even when no one is watching. And that is just not what our algorithms are teaching young men. Now, I I don’t know any father who tells their son that they should find the weakest person in the room and bully them. That’s exactly what our algorithms are teaching sons all over this country.
And so to any young man here who’s watching, anyone who’s listening to this conversation, you do have a choice every Saturday morning. You can own people on the internet, you control people on the internet, or you can go and mow your neighbor’s lawn. And I think that’s the choice in front of young men all over this country. >> What do you think, Mark? >> I have a 16-year-old son.
It’s terrifying. You can find out more about your children, teenage children, by looking at their Instagram and Tik Tok and YouTube than you’ll ever find by talking to them. And it’s crazy because I want to sit down and have a conversation about what is what it takes to be a man in in this world, but it’s hard to get him to engage because two seconds in it’s okay, put away the phone. But then I know that to James point, there’s going to be 30 second clips and everything is clipped these days and they’re going to spend more time with those clips than they are talking to their parents. And so we need people like James in the Senate helping to find solutions because you can reverse engineer these algorithms.
You can come up with alternatives. You can put parameters into them that make them safer. So we need people who are representing us knowing that the future of our country is dependent on doing this. So an extension of this and you both touched on it in your answers whether it’s you know people you meet your own son the example from your father is how important empowering and mentoring young people is and that everybody needs real liveaction heroes and not just the ones that you would find digitally. Um, so you’re a former middle school teacher.
You don’t get into that business unless you care about helping young people. Um, and then public service as well, but I remember what I was like to my teachers. Um, so God bless on that front. And obviously through your foundation, Mark, you do a lot of work with young people. So I’ll start with you.
How do you think about creating a a mentorship system for them or pipeline that can really change lives especially for those who don’t have as many resources and and don’t have a Mark Telerico sweeping in you know white nighting >> and mowing lawns. >> For those of us with resources we have to invest in communities and go where there are people without resources. in South Dallas. Um, I created the Mark Cuban Hero Center and every day we have programs going on, but things like suitup, buying suits for for kids who kids, kids who are graduating high school and college to go do their first interviews and having mentors there to work with them. having father-son days, motheraughter days where they can get together in an environment there aren’t phones but there are people there talking them through how to communicate and the topics of the day so that they can connect so you know going out there any of us can have an impact you know we can go to the Cuban center and participate the Mavs has got foundations I’ve got other found foundational aspects so for those at the top.
We need to cut the distance to those of us and those who are trying to work their way up. >> And and you’re right, I I used to teach middle school. Uh I always say that teaching middle school is the best preparation for politics. U it’s a great training ground. Uh it’s come in handy in this campaign already.
Um and I I serve on the public education committee. So, I went from serving a, you know, 150 kids a year in room 112 at Roads Middle School, home of the Fighting Wildcats, to now to now serving 5.5 million Texas public school students on the public education committee. And the longest serving member of that committee is a lawmaker named Harold Dutton out of Houston. And almost at every hearing, Harold Dutton would remind us, God doesn’t make junk.
God doesn’t make junk. Every single child in this state, in this country, regardless of their zip code, regardless of their skin color, regardless of how much money their parents make, every child has a gift to give the world. A gift that they alone uniquely can give. And it’s our job as the adults in their lives, the adults in this state, in this country to help them give that gift. That’s our job.
And if a child is not giving that gift, it’s not on them, it’s on us. That’s something you learn very quickly as a middle school teacher. It’s like these little hoodlams are going to act however they’re going to act, right? They’re middle schoolers, right? That’s what they do.
You set the tone of the classroom. You structure the classroom. And if kids aren’t learning, that’s on you as the teacher. If kids are misbehaving, that’s on you as the classroom manager. And so I take that same attitude as a policy maker that if kids aren’t giving the gift they’re meant to give, that means that we have to fix something either at a policy level, at a community level, uh at a at a at a family level to ensure that every child has that mentor, has that that relationship that can help help them fulfill their potential.
And so I think it’s a reason we need more public school teachers running for office. It’s why we need more people from service backgrounds running for office. And and we just need more leaders stepping up for our young people, whether it’s in in the public sector or the private sector. The adults in this state and in this country have got to step up for the next generation because they’re depending on us. And if we give them the support, they’re going to they’re going to knock our socks off.
They are going to surprise us with how they lead in the years and decades to come. So the extra element to this conversation that’s really important is AI and it’s the hot topic across every policy area. I mean you’ve seen what’s going on data centers flock camera you know everyone is uncomfortable even if they’re excited about what AI is going to bring. So, how are you thinking about empowering those that are just starting out in a world and in an economy especially dominated by AI? >> Well, I think you just touched on the tension here between excitement and anxiety.
And I know I personally feel both of those things when we talk about AI. You know, on the excitement side, I met with a young AI entrepreneur. He’s I mean 23 maybe and he’s doing work in biotech and he thinks it’s possible that the the AI that he’s developing may be able to cure some of the chronic diseases that so many people struggle with. Maybe able to cure cancer one day. And that’s exciting for me.
I think it’s exciting for most of us. But then when you look at our federal government and this this AI development, no one seems to be minding the store. Our leaders are asleep at the at the switch. There are no guardrails. There’s no regulatory framework to ensure that AI is working for us and not against us.
There’s there’s no strategic plan to ensure that we are that we’re developing AI that’s going to cure diseases and make our lives easier rather than replace workers and and prey on children and subvert our democracy. And so I think what most people are hungry for in the state of Texas is they want senators, they want lawmakers who are going to focus on building that that regulatory framework, deciding on what are the rules of the road. Uh I want America to win the AI race. I really do. But I want us to do it responsibly.
I want us to do it safely. And if I was if I was hopefully, God willing, will be part of these discussions come January of next year. There are three things there are three things three things I would prioritize as part of that AI regulatory framework. One is protecting jobs ensuring that AI is making jobs easier and not replacing jobs. >> The second the second actually dovetales on what we were just talking about and that’s protecting kids.
We already talked about how these big social media companies have hurt a lot of the youngest Texans, the youngest Americans. We cannot allow AI companies to just run right over the youth of this country and take advantage of them. You’ve already seen horror stories of AI providing mental health care to vulnerable kids to walking kids through how to hurt themselves or take their own lives. This is where you need rules of the road to ensure that we are protecting people from the harmful effects of these technologies. The last I would prioritize is our democracy.
I tried to pass a bill in the legislature. It had bipartisan support to ban AI deep fakes in political campaigns. I wasn’t able to get that bill over the finish line. Now I think I’m being punished. Uh and and that’s why uh Ken Paxton and the Republicans have already started using AI deep fakes against me.
So we have to again have basic rules of the road to ensure that we’re protecting workers, protecting kids, and protecting this democratic process. I think that’s the bare minimum of what we need when it comes to the AI discussion. >> Another area that is ripe for regulation talk is sports betting. And I couldn’t believe it when I saw this week that 52% of American Gen Z’s have taken money out of a traditional investment vehicle and moved it into sports betting. So Mark, you know a lot about this obviously former Mavs owner, um, sports enthusiast across the board.
What do you make of what’s going on with sports betting? Do you think we need a regulatory framework for it? The audience does, but tell us what’s going on here. >> Yeah. So, when at the NBA, I was the owner when we when sports betting first became prevalent and initially we thought, okay, it’s great.
You’ll bet on winners or losers, halftime scores, over unders, and that was fine, right? it’d make the games more interesting and you know more like fantasy sports or daily fantasy with more money. But what ends up happening or has ended up happening between the sports books and the prediction markets, people are vetting betting on everything and it’s contaminating everything. You’re seeing NBA players, golfers, tennis players who are thinking, “Well, no one’s going to know if I bet that I get one less rebound or play one less minute.” And then, you know, walking off the court after the game, we’re getting kids, you know, 18, 19, 20 years old who are screaming at NBA players profanity saying, “Because of you, I didn’t hit my parlay.
” That’s not right. And literally the players hate it more than anybody. And so I know at the NBA, I know with the leagues, they’re starting to take steps to reduce the type of bets that are put on or made available. And I think that’s critically important. That and enforcing age limits, that and making sure anytime somebody’s identified that and has a problem that we get them the support they need because it’s hidden and we don’t know it until somebody loses everything and then it’s too late.
And some of you may know that sports betting has played u a role in this campaign already. Um, no, nothing is sacred to Ken Paxton, not even college football. Um, as attorney general, Ken Paxton threatened to sue the Big 12 to protect Brendan Sorsby, the suspended Texas Tech quarterback who was betting on his own games >> at my alma mater, Indiana University. >> That’s right. That’s right.
>> National champs, though. So, I’m just saying. >> That’s right. Well, and and when he and when he did that, a lot of people were like trying to figure out why the attorney general of Texas >> would Yeah. would care or would get involved for a quarterback who clearly broke the rules.
It turns out the day before he threatened to sue the Big 12, Ken Paxton got a $250,000 donation from the chairman of the Texas Tech Board of Regents. >> Shocking. >> And shocking. >> And I listen listen I I promise I don’t just care about this because I’m a Longhorn. I It’s not just because of that.
We love our our Red Raiders. This is bigger than football. This is the same corruption that led Ken’s own party to impeach him for bribery. Th This is the This is the the same corruption that led his own staff to report him to the FBI. Th this is the same corruption that led Ken Paxton to give an Epstein style sweetheart deal to an admitted well-connected child predator.
So So Ken Ken Paxton is the most corrupt politician in Texas. He should be nowhere near college football and he should be nowhere near the United States Senate. I’ll just add one thing. Character is destiny. >> So my next question, maybe this is going to be the uncomfortable one.
Um I want to talk and you just mentioned corruption visa vamps and a clear line there. Um but that has been the theme of your campaign in a lot of senses. You know, pushing back on the elites class, Epstein class. What it comes in many forms. Um but you talk about it a lot.
And part of that is also pushing back on, you know, billionaires, big corporations. I mean, your health care plan takes it right to people who’ve accumulated and organizations have accumulated just too much money. We do have a billionaire on the stage. It’s not me. Um, one of the good ones, though.
So, >> I mean, I I actually I I’ve joked with Mark calling him one of the good ones. And And what I >> You mean you eat me last? >> What? That’s right. That’s right.
You know, one of the if I think about my political heroes, Franklin Roosevelt, Bobby Kennedy, they both of those both of those leaders were the billionaires of their day. Um, and in fact, they inherited it. At least Mark made his money the oldfashioned way, which I appreciate. U, >> me, too. But those but those those two billionaires they used their power they used their wealth to help working people and not just through charity but by changing the systems that make charity necessary and that’s exactly what Mark Cuban is doing in healthcare policy and he should be an example to every person with means in this country and also Mark is not very interested in controlling the political system which I appreciate um unlike unlike some of billionaires who are taking over American politics, including in this race for the US Senate.
Uh Mark, I’ve told every, you know, wealthy person I I come across in this race, if you are okay with getting taxed more, if you’re okay with me limiting your influence in politics, you are welcome to join this movement that we are building. And we’re thankful to have Mark Cuban as part of this. >> Thank you. I can tell you this. Um, I’ve given money to end Citizens United.
>> Amen. >> Um, and I know my next dollar isn’t going to change my life, but it can sure change a lot of other people’s lives. And that’s the way I try to live. >> One of the good ones. >> One of the good ones.
Uh, last question before we do some Texas style rapid fire fun. Um, how do you both think that we can be more supportive of entrepreneurs and small businesses? I don’t Who wants to go first? I have no preference. >> Go ahead.
>> Well, you know, something that I appreciate about about you, Mark, is that you are fighting for old school capitalism, which is all about actual competition. And that’s not the system we have now. Now we have crony capitalism >> and and so I I think that we should be cutting taxes for small local businesses, not giant multinational corporations that can buy politicians in Washington. I I think we should be I think we should be betting on the CEOs in their garages, not the CEOs on their mega yachts, because because that’s where the next great American company is going to come from. And and so how do we how do we one create rules of the road that that help the little guy with a big idea, right?
That small business owner with a dream and and who is actually supporting and employing folks in the community. Um you can’t being pro business can’t just mean being pro big business, >> right? >> And that’s really what it means nowadays. Um, and so if you’re if you’re not pro competition, you’re not actually pro business. If you’re trying to protect these monopolies, if you’re trying to protect this anti-competitive consolidation, you’re not actually a capitalist.
>> And so what I think we need to get back to is in is remembering that the the economy is for people. People aren’t for the economy. a capitalism that cares about people. That and I think we can do that by encouraging entrepreneurs, encouraging those those folks out there who have a big idea but don’t know a bunch of wealthy investors and creating opportunity opportunities for them to get ahead and to realize those dreams because when they’re successful, we’re going to be successful. Yep.
>> And and right now the deck is stacked against them. We can change that with better public policy that actually is trying to trying to fulfill that original vision of capitalism where all of us have a shot in a true free market. >> For sure. >> I I agree 100%. You know, when I go out, I love to go talk to kids, entrepreneurship classes, you know, let’s do a Shark Tank for the 10 year olds, right?
Um, but whenever I get a group of them of kids together, I always tell them, you know, to look at your shoes, look at the screen on the wall, look at the lights. One day they didn’t exist. Somebody literally had to invent those things. Then somebody had to say, “This is a good idea. Let’s turn it into a business.
Let’s create something that can that we can build for ourselves, our families, our communities.” And I always tell the kids before they walk out the door, I want you to ask yourself one question. Why not me? Why Why can’t I, as a kid, a young man, young woman, invent something that can change the world? Because they can.
And that’s one of the things I love about working with James because when we send him to Washington, he’s going to be looking out for those young entrepreneurs. He’s going to be opening doors for those young entrepreneurs. He’s going to create ways that they can change the world and answer the question, why not me? I like the image of a bunch of little Mark Cubans coming to you and saying, “Senator Terico, I I’ve got this idea.” Um, helping the next gen.
Um, okay. Rapid fire. You’re both two famous Texans. Who’s the most iconic Texan of all time? James.
Well, I’m running for LBJ’s Senate seat and and and I I really do feel that uh LBJ has a lot to teach us in this moment. He was able to marry two things that are kind of pitted against each other in our politics. One is a bold imagination for what’s possible and a practical politics of winning, of making it happen. And and those two things we’re told are at odds, especially in the Democratic party. But LBJ showed us that you can bring those two things together to transform the country.
I mean, Medicare, Medicaid, Head Start, Title One, public television, the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act. I mean, Lynden Johnson’s we are we are all still benefiting from Lyndon Johnson’s legacy to this day. And the Great Society is under attack. And so I think because of all those reasons, I would I would pick uh Lyndon Johnson and I can’t wait to win back his Senate seat in November of this year. >> Mark, >> I’m a big believer that as long as you got here as soon as you can, you count as a Texan.
>> So the only answer is Dirk Nitzky. Easy. That’s an answer a New Yorker can even really understand. So, okay. James, what’s your hottest take?
>> Pretend we’re on. >> One that’s not going to get me in trouble. Yeah. Um, okay. I was actually just talking about this with somebody.
I think that movie previews, movie trailers are too long because because listen no listen listen they are not no no no not the segment I I like as many trailers as possible but I mean the trailers themselves like they are giving away the entire plot of the movie like you watch >> okay >> you watch you watch the trailer and you’re like I I just saw the movie what do I need to go to lose for >> and you realize there was no plot >> right so I just think there’s nothing wrong with a teaser just give me like a taste like a you know a 15-second thing and like in peak my interest and then I’ll go see the movie. But um so I think in Washington we should pass a federallymandated limit. That’s what I’m running on 30 second trailers. Nothing over that. I think that one of the first laws James should pass when he gets to DC is nationally unlimited iced tea refills for everybody forever as a law codified in possibly a constitutional amendment.
>> Supportive of all of this. Okay. What Texas city has the best food? Mark >> Dallas. >> Dallas.
Okay. Fort Worth. >> Oh, Fort Worth. Okay. Dallas Fort Worth.
I’m slow. >> Wow. They almost got you there. >> Oh my god. Sorry.
>> Pitchforks. Okay. So, >> I set you up. Can’t go any worse. >> Yeah.
Ditto. Ditto. Um, the first my first scandal in this campaign was the very first week on the campaign trail and I was asked by a reporter which Texas city had the best food. I didn’t say my hometown of Austin. I didn’t say San Antonio where I taught school.
I didn’t say Dallas Fort Worth. I said the city of Houston. And hold on. Okay, good. There’s some some Houstononians here before before you’re angry at me.
And then the Dallas Observer wrote a big article about how I had sold out Dallas Fort Worth. So I just >> That’s difficult. >> So I’ve learned my lesson and my answer is pass. >> There you go. >> That’s great.
I was wondering if this was going to be the story that got us to the smear that you’re a vegan, which I have to hear about >> because that’s my life talking about how you’re a vegan. Okay. What’s better, barbecue or text? >> Oh my gosh. >> Uh, all right.
It’s a false it’s a false choice. But >> you didn’t learn your lesson from the last answer. >> I put those two things together. Barbcoa. Well, there you go.
>> That’s definitely how you get in. I can eat fried rice and beans all day, every day. So, >> okay. I think this one’s going to be hard for you to pick. Favorite Texas sports moment.
Oh, >> I mean as as a Longhorn, I am obligated to pick Vince Young final play of the national championship. But but I will give Mark um 2011 uh on the road um against all odds. >> Um that was quite a Texan way to win. So, >> absolutely. So, you already know my Yeah, >> we’re in agreement.
>> Okay, I can guess everyone’s answer to this, but Mav Spurs are rockets. >> I I shouldn’t even know both of our answers. >> All right. Well, I’m embarrassed. I did it.
Okay. >> And Cowboys or Texans? >> This is where I make it up to Dallas Fort Worth. I grew up and remain a big Dallas Cowboys fan. So, there you go.
So there’s the one thing I can give to DFW. >> We’ll agree there. Yeah. >> And his pass was basically tacid agreement. >> Um with Mark, that’s all that I have.
Um and I think we’re out of time. So it was great to talk to you guys. Thank you so much for having me with all of you. >> Um >> thanks Jess. >> You guys are great.
>> Thanks everybody.
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