Thanks so much for being here, Congresswoman. It’s always good to have you. Um, so today, Speaker Johnson told CNN’s Manu Raju that he never tried to kill the discharge petition to force this onto the floor, the the Epstein bill onto the floor for a vote, but he shares President Trump’s concerns about the bill. Take a listen. We wanted to ensure that victims of these heinous crimes are completely protected from disclosure, those who don’t want their names to be out there, and I’m not sure the discharge does that.
And that’s part of the problem. What’s your response to that? Um, I would cuss, but um, I’m not going to. I’m going just say he’s full of it. Um, number one, this is Cable.
You can cuss. I’m not going to do it, but I am going to say that he is full of Okay, I’m going to do it. He full of [ __ ]. Because here’s the thing. Number one, um, we know that he didn’t even bring the house back in because he was trying to avoid us dealing with Epstein.
In fact, he would not even swear in a dulyeleed now new member of Congress, depriving and having to be sued by her state and others because they literally did not have any representation. He violated the Constitution to avoid this. So, miss me on pretending that this is about the victims. In addition to that, when we finally released um some of the information that we got from the Epstein estate and we had all the victim’s names redacted, who was it that was out there saying, “Oh, and this person is the person that is supposedly mentioned in this section.” The Republicans did that to the extent that that victim’s family had to come out against them for revealing potentially her name.
So, they’re full of it. So right now what I think is going to happen, the only reason that he has switched is because obviously he has had lots of conversations. Either the Senate is not going to take it up or they don’t have the votes in the Senate. One of the two. But he never plans for this to actually go forward.
Oh, you think this is going to get killed in the Senate? I think that this is going to get killed some way somehow. Or the other option is that I think they’re going to do the very same thing and not necessarily the same thing, but the very reason that the files could not be released before is because there were active cases that were taking place. All the cases have been concluded because this administration decided they didn’t want to talk about Jeffrey Epstein.
So they weren’t going to investigate whatsoever.
So now the files can be open. But now he said, “Look into my enemies. I want you to investigate this hoax.” Well, if there’s open cases, then that is your excuse for legally not allowing those documents to be out. Well, you’re saying something that Congress, Republican Congressman Thomas Massie of Kentucky, whose bill this is to force the Epstein files out.
Um, Trump has uh told the Justice Department to investigate prominent Democrats, including former President Bill Clinton and their alleged ties to Jeffrey Epstein. That concerns Massie for the reason you said. Take a listen. if they have ongoing investigations in certain areas, those documents can’t be released. So, this might be a big smoke screen, these investigations, to open a bunch of them to as a lastditch effort to prevent the release of the Epstein files or it could just block the release of the ones having to do with Democrats and any other people that might be released.
But you either way, you you share his concern. Yeah, absolutely. I don’t think that this is about all of a sudden he woke up on the raw the right side of history, right? Like I don’t He has consistently gone against his own base. He’s told them on True Social, “Stop talking about this.
They shut down the house in a time when Americans could not eat all because they did not want to deal with the Epstein files.” And he has called it a hoax.
And now he’s saying that, well, there’s something to investigate. He is all over the place. The one thing that we know for sure is that he was sued not once but at least twice by alleged child sex victims alongside Epstein.
You tell me what other Democrat was named as a defendant alongside Epstein prior to all of this jazz ever happening. We’re talking about nine years ago. Ju just just to note that those cases never went anywhere.
They didn’t go anywhere, but the allegations definitely were made and they were made in coordination with someone that we know after looking at the emails, Jeffrey Epstein, when he was charged in 2009, he said in those emails, “I’m going to have to take the deal for the mandatory minimum of 10 years because I’m afraid I will get more time.” After he got a sweetheart deal from Alex Aosta, he then ended up indicted again in 2019.
So the one thing that I can tell you is while those civil cases may have gone away, we know for sure that Epstein himself admitted that he was a criminal.
So just because the cases went away, it doesn’t necessarily mean that the president has been absolved. I want to ask you about your House colleague uh Marjorie Taylor Green of Georgia. Yeah. Um viewers will remember you once called her a bleach blonde bad built butch body um during a House committee me meeting.
For for the record, she insulted you first. She had insulted you first. Um that is true. You you the rivalry aside, you both agree on the Epstein thing. She is this has put her on the outs with President Trump.
I want to play something that she said uh to my colleague Dana Bash yesterday in Cena. I would like to say humbly I’m sorry for taking part in the toxic uh politics. It’s it’s very bad for our country. Um, and I’ve it’s been something I’ve thought about a lot, especially since Charlie Kirk was assassinated, is that we I’m only responsible for myself and my own words and actions, and I am going I am committed, and I’ve been working on this a lot lately, to put down the knives and politics. You posted, “This almost feels like a moment where Marge should phone a friend.
I’m here for you, girl.” Um I have you spoken and and what’s your reaction to what you just said? Okay. So I do want I want you to know that there was sarcasm uh in I assume so. But I didn’t but I didn’t want to state it.
I I was being sarcastic but there’s always a little bit of truth in justest. So I I do want to be clear that uh another portion of that post is I said I told you told you you couldn’t trust him. Um and I believe that I believe that we all need to pay attention to Trump and how he acts. He is the cause of all the confusion and the destruction that we have seen in politics as far as I’m concerned because it used to be we could disagree and that was that I disagree with a lot of Republicans but it does not necessarily turn violent ever since he’s been introduced into politics.
We have seen a a consistent spike in the violence when it comes to politics.
So here’s the deal with Marjorie. I can appreciate what she says, but I’m gonna have to see her actions. And the reality is that where was this type of mood when we saw what happened to Mr. Pelosi in his home, who’s not even an elected official, but because somebody decided to go after Nancy Pelosi, where was this when we saw that we had local elected leaders murdered here recently? Um, the former speaker of the house in Minnesota.
Like, where was this? Right? And so what is so frustrating for me with not only Marjorie but MAGA as a whole is they’re in the find out phase. And so now that it’s hitting them, they’re like, “Oh my gosh, this is awful.” But you should have looked at this externally and said this is an awful environment.
The fact that one of y’all competing news um brands decided to go out and do a whole story on the fact that I pay for security.
Security I have to pay because of the dumb stories that they run about me. security that I have to pay for because of all of the hate that people like Marjorie and other MAGAS put out there. It is problematic. And then to have the president troll her as well as Laura Loomer troll her about the fact that she needs security.
Well, my only answer is if the if the president thinks this is a joke, then give us all the money back for the security that we pay for for him to go and golf or to go and wherever he is going. Give us the money back and maybe some Americans can get some health care and maybe some children can get some food.
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