♪ ♪ >> I BELIEVE THE LEGACY AND ANCESTRY OF BLACK AMERICANS AS BEING INSULTED EVERY SINGLE DAY. I WILL NOT PRETEND TO BE A VICTIM IN THIS COUNTRY. I KNOW THAT MAKES MANY PEOPLE ON THE LEFT UNCOMFORTABLE. >> Laura: AND DEMOCRATS ON THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE WERE EXTREMELY UNCOMFORTABLE, AS CANDACE OWENS JUST SLASHED AT THE NARRATIVE OF THE PEOPLE LIKE NADLER AND TED LIEU. ONCE HE SPENT WEEDED OUT THE VIDEO OF THE CONFRONTATION WITH LIEU, IT RACKED UP 4.
47 MILLION VIEWS IN LESS THAN 24 HOURS. A TWITTER RECORD FOR THAT NETWORK THEY’RE JOINING ME NOW IN HER FIRST INTERVIEW SINCE THE EXPLOSIVE HEARING AS CANDACE OWENS HERSELF. SHE IS THE DIRECTOR FOR TURNING POINT USA, AND LEO TO ROW, CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEY. BOTH SIDES REPRESENTED TONIGHT. CANDACE, WHY DO YOU THINK YOUR MOMENT, AND I WATCHED IT FROM BEGINNING TO END, HAS DRAWN SUCH ATTENTION, AND WHAT HAS BEEN THE REACTION TO YOU PERSONALLY SINC SINCE?
>> I THINK HE DREW ATTENTION FOR A LOT OF REASONS.
IN MANY WAYS, PEOPLE ON THE RIGHT FEEL VINDICATED. I KNOW A LOT OF MODERATE PEOPLE CAME OVER AND REALIZED THAT WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT WERE ACTUALLY REAL ISSUES IN BLACK AMERICA. I TOUCHED UPON THE LITERACY RATES. 75% OF BLACK BOYS IN CALIFORNIA NOT BEING ABLE TO READ IS A PROBLEM IN BLACK AMERICA.
WHITE NATIONALISM, ONE BLACK ON BLACK CRIME, 90.1% OF ALL HOMICIDES AGAINST BLACK AMERICANS ARE PERFORMED BY OTHER BLACK AMERICANS. THE ENTIRE HEARING, IN MY OPINION, WAS A HOAX, HE CONTINUED HOAX ON BLACK AMERICA, WHICH COMES TO US FROM DEMOCRATS WHO WANT US ULTIMATELY TO FAIL BY FOCUSING ON SOMETHING THAT IS NOT HARMING US. WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT WE ARE FACING. >> Laura: NOW, LEO, YOU WATCHED, I’M SURE, AT LEAST PART OF WHAT CANDACE SAID YESTERDAY.
YOUR REACTION? >> RIGHT NOW, CANDACE OWENS IS GETTING 15 MINUTES OF FAME, AND GIVE ME 30 SECONDS TO PROVE MY POINT.
SHE JUST AGAIN ASSUMED THAT ALL DEMOCRATS ARE HOPING BLACK PEOPLE FAIL. ON HER INTERVIEW WITH C-SPAN, SHE SAID THE WORD NATIONALISM HAS BEEN COMPROMISED OR POISONED BY ELITIST. TELL MUCH OF THE PEOPLE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE.
THEN SHE TRIED TO PUT YOURSELF IN THE SAME CATEGORY OF DONALD TRUMP, TALKING ABOUT THE FALSE NARRATIVE. BUT PROMOTING HER EMPLOYER AND SAYING THAT SHE WENT TO JERUSALEM, NOT A SINGLE DEMOCRAT WENT THERE. MISS OWENS, LET ME TELL YOU, 77% OF JEWS IN AMERICA VOTED FOR — AMERICANS ARE NOT STUPID. I LISTEN TO EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID, AND YOU CAN CHALLENGE WHAT I SET ABOUT THE NUMBER OF BLACKS, THE NUMBER OF JEWS WHO SUPPORT DEMOCRATS, BUT YOU DID A GOOD JOB MARKETING YOURSELF TODAY, PUTTING YOURSELF IN THE SAME BOAT AS THE PRESIDENT PAIRED GOOD JOB, CANDACE. >> Laura: FOR THE RECORD — >> THAT’S A PERSONAL ATTACK.
>> Laura: YOU ARE ATTACKING HER CHARACTER.
>> I UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED. >> Laura: YOU ARE ATTACKING HER CHARACTER AND WHAT SHE SAID. >> IN MY OPINION — >> Laura: HOLD ON, LET HER SPEAK. >> THAT WAS AN AD HOMINEM ATTACK, AND I’M NOT GOING TO PLAY THESE PLAYGROUND TACTICS WITH YOU.
I’M GOING TO KEEP THE FOCUS ON BLACK AMERICA AND THE THINGS ACTUALLY IMPACTING US. THIS IS AN ADULT CONVERSATION THAT NEEDS TO BE HAD. THE SHOOTINGS IN CHICAGO. IT WAS LAURA INGRAHAM WHO HOSTED AND HAD A REAL CONVERSATION WITH PEOPLE THAT WERE LIVING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT THINGS AFFECTING THEM. ULTIMATELY, THIS IS WHY BLACKS ARE LEAVING THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, BECAUSE AD HOMINEM ATTACKS DO NOT MAKE PEOPLE FEEL BETTER ABOUT THEMSELVES.
THEY’RE NOT GOING TO IMPACT OUR SITUATION IN BLACK AMERICA. IT IS UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE YOU CONSIDER YOURSELF A CIVIL RIGHTS LEADER. YOU’RE JUST ATTACKING ME. YOU HAVEN’T OFFERED ANYTHING — >> NO AD HOMINEM ATTACKS. DOES ANYONE WATCHING HER PROGRAM HONESTLY BELIEVE WHAT SHE SAID?
SHE SAID DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO FAIL.
SEE, THOSE ARE TALKING POINTS BECAUSE YOU KNOW DEEP DOWN INSIDE JUST BECAUSE YOU DISAGREE WITH THE DEMOCRATS, YOU CANNOT ASSUME THAT DEMOCRATS WANT BLACK PEOPLE TO FAIL. THAT IS WHAT YOU JUST THAT ON NATIONAL TV. >> I DID, AND I BELIEVE THAT. I CAN BACK THAT UP WITH FACTS.
>> THAT’S MY POINT, LAURA. YOU KNOW THAT’S NOT TRUE. >> Laura: I WANT TO PLAY SOMETHING — I THINK A LOT OF DEMOCRAT LEADERS ARE FREAKING OUT AND TRIED TO KILL HER YESTERDAY AND THAT HEARING BECAUSE THEY DON’T WANT WHAT SHE IS SAYING TO TAKE HOLD IN OTHER PARTS OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY. LEO, I HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT. I KNOW CANDACE, AND WHAT WAS THAT ABOUT HER — >> YOU KNOW ME.
>> Laura: I DO, AND THAT IS WHY I WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THESE UNDERLYING ISSUES.
THAT IS WHY WE WENT TO CHICAGO TO DO THAT FOR HIM. THAT IS WHY WE WANT TO HEAR FROM THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE HURTING. THEY ARE REALLY HURTING. THEY ARE NOT HURTING BECAUSE OF WHITE NATIONALISM.
THAT IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM. >> HERE’S MY REQUEST, LAURA. I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO CHICAGO WITH YOU AND DEBATE MISS OWENS ON THAT ISSUE. I WOULD LOVE TO GO. >> WHY DO WE NEED TO DEBATE?
>> BECAUSE I WANT TO DISCUSS — >> WHY DO YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE — >> THE MOST DIVERSE PARTY — >> Laura: HOLD ON, LEO — >> LET ME SPEAK, LET ME SPEAK.
I HAVE NOT SET A SINGLE THING ATTACKING YOUR CHARACTER. I DON’T NEED TO PEERED I’M CONFIDENT IN MY IDEAS. I’M CONFIDENT IN THE FACT BLACK AMERICA IS WAKING UP AND REALIZE WE HAVE BEEN MISSING OUT. I’M CONFIDENT THE BIGGEST ISSUE FACING OUR COMMUNITY — >> MS.
OWENS — >> I CUT YOU OFF, OKAY? I HAVE NOT ATTACKED HE WANTS. I’VE ATTACKED DEMOCRATS — >> LET ME GET IN — EVERY DEMOCRAT. SHE HAS BASICALLY SAID THAT EVERY DEMOCRAT, THE MOST DIVERSE PARTY WITH MINORITIES AND PEOPLE O’CONNORS, SHE HAS BEEN ON NATIONAL TV OVER AND OVER AGAIN, DEMOCRATS WANT PEOPLE TO FAIL. MS.
OWENS, THAT IS NOT CORRECT. THOSE ARE YOUR WORDS, THAT IS NOT TRUE.
>> THAT IS A FACT. >> Laura: I WOULD ACTUALLY TAKE WHAT LEO SAYS WITH A GREATER SENSE OF BELIEF AND CREDIBILITY. LEO, YOU SAID SOMETHING SIMILAR EVERY TIME SOMEONE IMPARTS THE WORST MOTIVE ON PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE WITH THEM ON POLICY.
AND IT HAPPENS FAR TOO OFTEN. THE WORST MOTIVES EVER COME ON THE OTHER SIDE. ARE YOU A WHITE PERSON? THEN YOU HAVE TOO MUCH WHITE PRIVILEGE. YOU NEED TO SIT DOWN AND LET SOMEONE ELSE’S TRUTH BE HEARD.
LEO, YOU GOT YOUR TRUTH OUT, CANDACE GOT HER TRUTH OUT, AND I THINK WE DO WANT THE PROBLEM-SOLVING DONE ON BOTH SIDES. WE WANT PROBLEM-SOLVING ON THE SHOW, AND THAT MEANS WE HAVE DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW. THERE LEO, YOU CAN COME TO CHICAGO. CANDACE, WE CAN ROLL UP OUR.
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